Named after the nearby farmstead, the Kigbeare golf course is the best of no fewer than six layouts at the popular Ashbury Hotel – the UK’s largest golf facility.
Named after the nearby farmstead, the Kigbeare golf course is the best of no fewer than six layouts at the popular Ashbury Hotel – the UK’s largest golf facility.
Ashbury Golf Hotel (Kigbeare)
England EX20 4NL, United Kingdom
manorandashburyresorts.co.uk/golf/our-courses/kigbeare+44 (0) 1837 53053The Kigbeare course (named after the nearby farmstead) is the longest of four full-length 18-hole courses at the Manor House and Ashbury Hotels leisure complex outside Okehampton, on the northern edge of Dartmoor National Park. There’s also a 6-hole Academy course and a Par 3 track called Willows on site, making this the UK’s largest golf facility.
Kigbeare extends to 6,528 yards from the back markers, playing to a par of 72; 35 on the front nine and 37 on the back nine. There’s only one par five on the outward half (at the 9th) and three par fives in play on the inward half. Most of the fairways on this course are set out across the northern part of the property, with the opening three holes and closing two holes a little bit disconnected from the others.
The par three 3rd is regarded as the signature hole on the course, and for many golfers it’s the best on the whole complex. Dropping 50 feet from teebox to green, it requires a carry of around 180 yards to clear Hookmoor Brook which wanders across the front of a putting surface that’s surrounded by large mature trees.
The Kigbeare is not an easy course to walk, nor is it for the faint-hearted. You’ll also need nerves of steel and a driving licence to drive a buggy around this unconventional site, which traverses steep hills and valleys.
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Welcome to the latest of our regional updates for England as we now move into the more southern parts of the country. Following our recent revision of three counties in the northeast, we now focus on six counties in the southwest, namely Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Somerset and Wiltshire. Over five million people live here in an area extending to over nine thousand square miles, with easily the longest coastline of any English region. More than two hundred clubs are registered with the various local golfing authorities and we feature courses from nearly half those clubs across the six county listings. Five counties retain the same number one but there’s a new top dog to contend with in Gloucestershire. We’ve also added twenty-five new tracks which now means we profile almost a hundred in this region. If there’s somewhere we’ve overlooked then please let us know – we don’t do “ultimate” or “definitive” lists so please get in touch and we’ll check out any recommendations. Cornwall The Church course at St Enodoc Golf Club (pictured above) entered our World Top 100 chart at #87 in 2018 and it’s since risen to #74 in that esteemed global listing – with that in mind, it’ll be no surprise to learn that it’s still our #1 for Cornwall. A recent reviewer summed up the golfing charms of St Enodoc pretty well when they wrote: “an exceptional course, matched by a lovely clubhouse with great service, in a stunning part of the country.” Trevose Only two courses make upward moves in the revised standings and the foremost of these is the Championship course at Trevose Golf Club, advancing one place to the runner-up spot. Tom Mackenzie has completed a renovation project at the club, rejuvenating most of the holes on the layout, and such is the quality of the work undertaken, a reviewer has posted that the rankings of St Enodoc and Trevose should, in their opinion, be switched. The Harry Colt-designed 18-hole layout at Newquay is the other Cornwall climber, and it also rises by one place to #6. St Austell The highest of our six new entries for Cornwall is the course at St Austell Golf Club, arriving at #10. The club was established in 1911 with an 18-hole layout in play three years later. James Braid visited in November 1926 to advise on course improvements but it took more than a decade before his plans were implemented, with the remodelled layout opening on 25th September 1937. The other new entries for this county are St Mellion (Kernow) at #12, Truro at #13, Looe at #14, Lanhydrock at #15 and Carylon Bay at #16. Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Cornwall. Devon The East course at Saunton Golf Club (pictured above) remains our #1 for Devon and it also ranks very highly in both our English national chart (at #24) and our Britain & Ireland chart (at #53). A reviewer from a couple of months ago was impressed, writing: “a spectacular piece of land greets you at Saunton… but don’t let the terrain be what you judge the East on as the layout of the course is spectacular in itself, with hole after hole of golfing splendour!” Eight courses advance in our new table, with all of them making just a one-place improvement. The highest of these climbers is the West course at Saunton (at #2), swapping places with the old links at Royal North Devon Golf Club. Honiton There are two newcomers to the Devon chart and the leading course is the 18-hole layout at Honiton Golf Club, making its first appearance at #19. The course dates back to when the club was founded in 1896, starting out with nine holes but quickly becoming an 18-hole track, and it occupies a compact property of around 90 acres, with glorious views across the Blackdown Hills. The other Devon new entry is Ilfracombe at #22. Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Devon. Dorset Retaining its status as number one course in Dorset, the short 18-hole heathland layout at Broadstone Golf Club (pictured above) is an old Tom Dunn design from 1898 that Harry Colt remodelled during and just after the Great War. Like Saunton (East) the course is well regarded in both our English (#36) and Britan & Ireland (87) Top 100 charts. Unfortunately, it’s a little too short to host most elite amateur or professional events but it has staged other important tournaments in the past, including the English Women’s Amateur (three times) and the Women’s Amateur back in 1951. Knighton Heath Progressing two spots from #10 to #8, the course at Knighton Heath Golf Club was described in a post a few weeks ago as “great fun and well worth finding the time to play… it may be built in a compact area of just 90 acres but there is little feeling of holes being squeezed in… the clever bunkering is a feature and the mainly flat greens are a dream to putt on.” Came Down The first of five new entries for Dorset is the course at Came Down Golf Club at #10. Set out by Tom Dunn in 1896, when the club was called Dorchester Golf Club, the original 9-hole course was extended to eighteen holes by J.H. Taylor before Harry Colt was engaged to redesign the course in the late 1920s. The other four Dorset new entries are Lyme Regis (at #11), Rushmore (at #12), Meyrick Park (at #13) and Weymouth (at #14). Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Dorset. Gloucestershire We have a new #1 for Gloucestershire and it’s the 18-hole Cherington course at Minchinhampton Golf Club (pictured above), where Fred Hawtree laid out eighteen holes in the mid-1970s then his son Martin added another eighteen in 1995. The Cherington and Avening courses utilize a combination of holes from father and son, with a composite course used in the past for Regional Open Qualifying. Cleeve Hill The biggest jump in this county re-ranking is made by the course at Cleeve Hill Golf Club (up three to #3) which Old Tom Morris laid out in 1891. Another Tom, architect Tom Doak, had this to say about the course a while back: “here is a chance to appreciate golf as you may never have understood it – an energizing walk over glorious open countryside, with some unique hazards to overcome along the way.” Lilley Brook The first of three new Gloucestershire entries in this updated county table is the course at Lilley Brook Golf Club, where Alister MacKenzie fashioned a new 18-hole course for the club shortly after it was established in 1921. For some reason, the layout was remodelled in 1964, so that only nine of the original holes from the Good Doctor are still in play today. The other two newcomers in this county are Cirencester (at #17) and Henbury (at #18). Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Gloucestershire. Somerset The Championship course at Burnham & Berrow Golf Club (pictured above) is still our #1 in Somerset. Also ranked #26 in England and #62 in Britain & Ireland, this 18-hole track has been refined down the years by a number of eminent golf course architects, including former members Herbert Fowler and Hugh Alison. Currently, Tom Mackenzie is overseeing a long-term upgrade project on the course. Minehead & West Somerset The best upward move in this updated county chart is made by the 18-hole layout at Minehead & West Somerset Golf Club (up two to #8). The course was laid out as a 9-hole affair by Royal North Devon professional John Allan in 1882 before it was expanded to eighteen holes in 1901. Nowadays, it plays to just over 6,200 yards, with par set at 72. Oake Manor The first of thee new Somerset chart entries, the course at Oake Manor Golf Club enters at #10, slightly ahead of Mendip Spring (Brinsea) at #12, Burnham & Berrow (Channel) at #13 and Farrington (Duchy) at #14. An early 1990s Adrian Stiff design, Oake Manor features water hazards at half the holes on the scorecard. Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Somerset. Wiltshire Retaining the Wiltshire #1 spot that it first captured in 2016, the course at Bowood Estate (pictured above) is an early 1990s Dave Thomas design that is now designated as the PGA Official Golf Course and Academy Course for the South West of England. It can be stretched to just over 7,300 yards from the back tees, where the old Standard Scratch Score is 76 (against a par of 72) so choose your tees very carefully if you decide to tee it up here. High Post The course at High Post Golf Club makes the greatest headway in the new Wiltshire standings, shooting four places up the chart to #5. Located on chalk downland, the layout is a J.H. Taylor and F.G. Hawtree production which celebrated a hundred years in operation last year. Many of the original design traits, like grassy hollows and subtly contoured greens, are still very much in evidence here. Ogbourne Downs The first of the Wiltshire new entries is the course at Ogbourne Downs Golf Club, arriving at #10. It’s another Taylor/Hawtree co-production that was built when the club moved to its current location in 1929. Initially founded as North Wilts in 1907, the club changed name to Swindon Golf Club before it finally became Ogbourne Downs in 1995. The other Wiltshire new entries are Upavon (at #12), West Wilts (at #13), Chippenham (at #14) and Marlborough (at #15). Click the following link to see the newly updated county rankings for Wiltshire. Jim McCann Editor Top 100 Golf Courses

Atlantic Coast Links Golf Trip By Richard Smith, Knoxville, Tennessee I have been traveling to the United Kingdom and Ireland for the past thirty years to play many of the tremendous links courses as well as a number of the excellent inland courses. The Atlantic links courses along England’s Southwest coast from Somerset to Devon and Cornwall had intrigued me for many years. I was looking for an opportunity to play here, especially after my wife Ruth and I became enamored with Cornwall through the wonderful BBC TV show “Doc Martin”. As luck would have it, I was able to convince her to join me for a golfing adventure along the Atlantic Coast. I began researching the courses in the area and planning the trip. Editor-in-Chief Keith Baxter helped hugely by providing recommendations concerning courses, accommodation and dining. Eventually we decided on an itinerary and planned the trip for late May 2015. We flew into Heathrow from the USA landing in London early on Saturday morning. After passing through customs and collecting our rental car we drove directly to our first stop for the trip, the excellent links at Burnham & Berrow. Burnham sits on the Bristol Channel and is an excellent starting point for either a trip to Devon and Cornwall or to South Wales. The course is about a 2 and ½-hour drive from Heathrow (almost all the way on the M4 and M5), although traffic was bad that day and it took us quite a bit longer to get to Burnham & Berrow. Thankfully we easily made the tee time after an enjoyable lunch in the clubhouse. This was a tough start and a tough course right after flying all night and the lengthy car journey. The first tee shot must be threaded between dunes on both sides of the fairway and bunkers on the left and a sharp drop off to the right guard the green. The wind was against and off the right off the first tee and was generally against the entire front nine. However this is an excellent links that only got better as the round went on. Burnham & Berrow has an excellent balance of strong par fours, well-designed par threes, and two very different and interesting par fives. There is some flat land out around 7 and 8 but I still found these holes interesting and challenging. The front nine plays between the dunes but there is more elevation change on the back nine. Although the layout is basically a classic out and back design, each hole has a subtle change of direction so the wind never seems to come at you from quite the same direction. Burnham provides a great challenge and is a classic links course. The feel of the layout reminds me of another links course I hold in very high regard, Royal Cinque Ports in Deal. This was a tough outing considering the circumstances and I would love to play here again in a more rested state. You could take Burnham in at the end of a trip to Devon and Cornwall and it might not be a bad idea to get a few rounds in before taking on this difficult but fair track. After our round at Burnham we had an hour and a half drive down to Devon. I chose the small village of Instow as our base for Devon since it was just about halfway between the courses I planned to play at Saunton and Westward Ho! We stayed at The Springfield House a lovely B&B. The house was built in 1879 as a gentleman’s residence and has been updated with all modern conveniences. The main house has two B&B rooms as well as an upstairs apartment with a kitchen, living room area and two bedrooms. There is also a cottage in the back of the property as well. The house can accommodate a reasonable number of people if you’re planning a golf outing in Devon and it would be hard to find two more warm and charming hosts than Edward and Lucinda. There are quite a few animals in residence, including the hens which lay the fresh eggs provided for breakfast every morning. On Sunday my wife had her introduction to links golf at the famous links of the Royal North Devon Golf Club at Westward Ho! Royal North Devon has a strong history of supporting women’s golf and provides two sets of ladies tees which allowed my wife to enjoy the nuances of links golf while avoiding any forced carries or overly intimidating shots. I was anxious that morning since heavy rains hit the area, although the bad weather was predicted to clear by our 1:30 tee time. The heavy rain did stop but a thick mist soaked us which was worse than when the rain came in for two or three holes. The weather eventually cleared and allowed to enjoy the course. Royal North Devon sits on the common land of the Northam Burrows which means that your round is shared in the companionship of sheep and horses as well as numerous walkers. In fact the first thing you notice upon walking up to the first tee are the sheep grazing to the right of the tee behind the 18th green. Westward Ho! itself is a wonderful fun challenge. The opening holes are somewhat flat, but by the time you reach the 4th you realize you are in for a special experience. The blind drive over the Cape bunker is reminiscent of the drive on #3 at Prestwick and sets the tone for the fun and high quality golf which follows. Holes 6 and 7 are excellent par fours that play up into some nice dunes. At 9 you are introduced into the rushes that dominate the remaining holes. At times it seems as if you are hitting into a sea of rushes but the holes are well marked and you are well advised to keep to the line of the marker. Royal North Devon provides a great experience of classic old style links golf. The fairways are all rumpled and uneven yet the course is incredibly fair and fun to play. My wife never felt intimidated and enjoyed her round tremendously. On Monday I joined Editor-in-Chief Keith Baxter for 36 holes at Saunton. There is certainly no better 36 holes of links golf in the UK and Ireland. The East course is a championship layout, and the West course is an underrated and excellent course in its own right. Keith was rusty after a fairly long layoff, but he managed his game well and our matches at both courses went down to the final hole. We played the West course in the morning and I really enjoyed the subtle doglegs and interesting greens. The course plays up towards some excellent dunes. The patient and accurate golfer is well rewarded here. The West is an excellent course that would be well regarded if it sat alone. After lunch on the patio Keith and I took on the demanding East course. Edward from Springfield House had generously given Ruth a lift up to the course and she walked with us though the afternoon round. The East course is a championship layout. One excellent par four after another is the theme. The holes are classic examples of strategic golf and they are balanced by three excellent par threes at 5, 13 and 17. The short 5th (122 yards from the blue tee) matches the famous postage stamp 8th at Troon as a great short hole. Steep slopes front and back guard the hole and absolute control of your distance is mandatory. Playing both courses at Saunton is a memorable experience. Tuesday was our travel day to Cornwall. We took in Tintagel Castle and visited Port Isaac. They were filming a scene for the next season of “Doc Martin” and we blundered upon the shoot. The coast of Cornwall is stunning and it’s easy to see why this area is favored as a UK holiday destination. We wound up that afternoon at our base in Cornwall, Treverbyn House B&B in Padstow. Padstow is quite a place. It hosts several world-class restaurants yet the village still has a charm all of its own. Treverbyn House is a first class B&B managed by Gary. It has three rooms and sits with a beautiful view across the river Camel over to the village of Rock and St. Enodoc Golf Club. Gary was a wonderful host and the rooms were beautiful, large and comfortable. Playing golf in Cornwall means that you are entering into James Braid heaven. He designed the links at St. Enodoc and Perranporth – both are first class examples of great design, great golf and great fun. I took on St. Enodoc on Wednesday morning. Even in a benign light wind this course was a tremendous challenge. It may be one of the most difficult driving courses I’ve ever played. The course runs up and down some severe hills even more dramatic than those at Gullane. The drive at the 10th must be played to be believed, yet there are many other demanding yet fair holes. The views from the course back across the Camel to Padstow are beautiful. The course ends with a wonderful par five, demanding par three and excellent par four 18th that runs down and then back up a steep hill. Ruth played Perranporth with me on Thursday and I’m not sure if I’ve had that much fun on a golf course in a long time. Perranporth runs up and down steep hills as well as around and through dramatic dunes. Blind shots abound but each hole has a unique and distinctive personality. The hills and dunes were probably a bit much for my wife but she enjoyed the day. There are dramatic views of the ocean and coast as well as the town of Perranporth that make the course a special experience. I was edging to try out West Cornwall on Friday, but the weather was bad and my wife was worn out from Perranporth, so we took an easy day off and went sight seeing. Saturday was our last full day and I played Trevose in the morning. Trevose is a nice links. The course is fairly open but still demands good golf to play well. This course allows you to use your imagination including the opportunity to play bump and run shots. I think my wife would have enjoyed playing Trevose since there are few forced carries over hazards and the greens allow for shots to run up to the hole. After Trevose we drove up to Heathrow (about 250 miles) returned our rental car and spent the night at one of the airport hotels. Our flight left the next morning and we returned tired yet exhilarated following our trip. Most Americans are aware of the Open venues and some of the better-known courses such as Royal Dornoch and Kingsbarns. The Atlantic Coast courses are “off the radar” for most Americans, and this is truly a shame. Each course is unique and offers a distinct challenge. Within the space of a week you can sample all of the nuances that make links golf such a special experience. This is a beautiful corner of the world with excellent golf courses to boot. A lover of golf, and links golf in particular would be well rewarded to consider this area in their future golf plans. Richard Smith To read my reviews for each course and view a few more pictures, click on any of the links below: Burnham & Berrow Royal North Devon Saunton (West) Saunton (East) St Enodoc (Church) Perranporth Trevose (Championship)

The purpose of the Review of The Month feature is twofold. Top100GolfCourses has always aimed to salute and encourage those who are putting admirable effort into reviewing the world’s great golf courses. Moving forward, we are also looking to learn from these experts! We’ll be chatting with the month’s star authors and discussing topics such as golf in their area, what they like to see in a strong course review, and of course dig a little deeper into their own winning review. February 2023’s Review of The Month comes from Harvey Thomas, who ate his first course at Woking Golf Club while exploring Surrey’s famous “Three W’s” feast. He’s eager to get back for seconds! It seems from context that you've recently gotten the Heathland bug. Whereabouts do you hail from, and how does the golf in Surrey compare from a playing perspective? I spent most of my childhood living in Southeast London, where golf was a sport for “posh people” (which we definitely were not). I have lived in South Hampshire for 30 years now and I got into golf about 20 years ago when my back stopped me from being so competitive with my tennis. I currently have home membership at Stoneham and an away membership at a nice club in Surrey, but have also previously had a country membership at Saunton in Devon, which I loved. Every time I used to drive through the entrance at Saunton I would get goosebumps down my neck as I saw the stunning linksland below. Stoneham is by far the best course in South Hampshire and is a lovely roller coaster with lots of up and down elevation changes, through tree and heather lined fairways and every hole is memorable and different in its own way. As is the fashion these days, they have cleared a lot of the trees, although there are still a lot left and they have been trying to regenerate the heather. If they can restore the heather fully, it will make a very good track absolutely stunning. The membership in Surrey has been a special treat for me and really got me into the Surrey golf scene, where there are a large number of fantastic heathland style courses. Between Stoneham and playing tracks in Surrey, I have grown a real love for heathland classics. They are frequently very beautiful but I also have a big weakness for good links tracks, which make you feel like you are playing a game within a game, especially when they get firm and the wind gets up. Photo credit: Jason Livy You make it clear from the onset that Woking's greens are its primary defense. Do you think these putting surfaces allow it to offer a similar challenge to low handicappers as other longer courses do? The fantastic greens at Woking are probably its strongest point, and they look like they demand well-placed shots into greens if you are to score well on them. My son played a match there recently too, and he is a plus handicap. He found the greens scorable, but definitely on the challenging and good side. High handicappers could definitely get humiliated by them, and single figure golfers will need to have a good touch with good green reading to avoid too many three-putts on them. The course is not as challenging as some long championship courses in terms of playing to par, but the course and slope rating is nowhere near as generous either, so playing to your handicap index on this track is just as hard in my view. The heather, a few ponds and streams, the bunker positioning and the remaining trees also add to the challenge on a visually appealing course, and I love the elevation changes on the front nine. This is definitely not a course for the beginner or high handicapper, who will find it too difficult, but mid to low handicappers will generally find it very enjoyable. Have you had the opportunity to play many Tom Dunn courses and, if so, anything you've noticed in his style? Other Tom Dunn courses I have played are Sheringham, and Goring & Streatley, but I never would have guessed they were by the same architect, as they are such different styles of course. Although I liked Sheringham, I do not personally put it in the Top 100 in England, and Goring & Streatley was pleasant but not very memorable. Woking, by contrast, was highly memorable and enjoyable too. You mentioned how recent clearance work from Tim Lobb has improved the course. Do you have any gems in mind that would benefit from similar treatment? I think tree clearance has become very fashionable in recent years as clubs with heathland traditions try to restore their style from days of old. I understand by contrast that in the 1970’s and ‘80s, many clubs were planting trees to have those tricky tree-lined fairways, although maybe that is just hearsay. It is perfectly possible to have tree-lined fairways and still be a fantastic course in my view. Stoneham has done an excellent job with it, where a huge number of trees have been removed from the property while retaining a large number of large specimen trees, which add to the challenge. The views are more open across the course and it now has a great balance. The only thing I objected to was the clearance of the Rhododendrons. Although perhaps not in keeping with a heathland course, they were very pretty, especially when in flower in the Spring, and they also added some useful shielding to some of the tee boxes and greens in my view. Nevertheless, the course is now stunning and on balance all the work done has improved the course significantly. By contrast, when I visited The Addington again last Summer soon after their clearance work, I found the course much less enjoyable than on my previous visit. So my jury is out as to whether it will be an improvement in the long term there, and only time will tell. They certainly will need to plant heather in the cleared areas if they want to make the tree clearance a positive in this instance. I felt that the trees added definition and challenge, as well as better seclusion between the holes on my previous visit. I didn’t play Woking before its tree clearance, but certainly enjoyed it in its current form. From the pictures I have seen, it looks like it has been a good improvement and the member I played with that day prefers it that way. I can’t think of any other tracks I have visited that need major tree clearance works, although I am always very happy when courses restore heather/heathland, which I find visually stunning except for when I am trying to play out of it! Photo credit: Jason Livy Now that you're a celebrated "Review of The Month" winner, let us know what factors you appreciate in a strong golf course review! When I read a review the things I really appreciate are: 1. A fair score by someone who knows what a really good course looks like. Too often I see relatively inexperienced reviewers giving out five-ball and six-balls to courses that are certainly not good Top 100 material. It makes it very hard to work out whether the course is worth a visit if there are lots of over generous reviews. My own benchmark is that a six-ball would certainly need to be around the Top 50 in the world (not that I have played enough to know for sure) and a five-ball would normally be something that would be in the top few hundred globally. I give 4.5’s to courses that are around the 50-100 in England, although at the lower end I am sometimes considering a four. Scores of three and 3.5 would be good private members clubs that I am happy to play if in the area and I have the invite and would rate quite highly in their county, being in the top quartile or so. 2. Something that gives me a flavour for the feel of the course, and what makes it stand out compared with other good courses. 3. What the conditioning is like, as this can make a course not worth the time travelling to it and the cost if this is poor. 4. If there are no previous reviews with that level of detail, I am happy to see a hole-by-hole review and description, but not if someone has already done a good job on this previously. 5. Some good pictures if possible – something I need to learn how to do myself. 6. Something that does not simply repeat the reviews that have gone before, so that it feels worthwhile reading and it adds to the body of knowledge. If it is not able to do that because of the large volume of previous reviews, then I am OK with something short and sweet. 7. If it is really well written with elements of humour it certainly helps to hold the interest. 8. I am always interested to know how the etiquette of the other groups was on the day (do they play faster groups through, repair pitch marks, rake bunkers etc) and the pace of play. I hate slow rounds and anything over four hours drives me nuts, so information on how this was on the day is very good to know. 9. It is sometimes nice to see any debate compared with previous reviews. For example there are often holes that polarise opinion, and it is good to see any contrasting view on these occasions. 10. It would also be interesting to see some reviews that assess a course from what it is like to be a member at the club, and which really gets under the skin of what the club is like, warts and all. For example, I can think of a Top 100 in England course near London, which is a good 4 ball track but with all the slow corporate pay-and-play golf, I would hate to be a member there, getting stuck behind five or six-hour rounds. What's one course that you're excited to write a review for in the upcoming year? In the next year I am due to play Sunningdale Old, Royal Dornoch, Castle Stuart, Woodhall Spa, Royal Worlington, Brora, St. George’s Hill, Bearwood Lakes, West Hill, Parkstone, Broadstone and Boat of Garten for the first time. We may also get to Rye, Hankley Common, Hayling and Silloth if we are lucky. I am very excited about playing all of them, and it is a flip of the coin between Sunningdale and Royal Dornoch as to which will be the biggest treat.