Fantastic place to play golf although hard to say it is value for money. The course is magnificent with some stunning views and scenery. Well worth a visit and am glad I played but there are other courses in NZ of equal standard for far less outlay. But can't really fault it
I have mixed feelings about this course. True, the setting is great and the views magnificent. This, together with the long private road after the entrance, the clubhouse, the facilities, the staff, make you feel you are at a special place. I had a great day of golf, and I certainly do not regret the experience nor the trip.
But come on, 2nd in New Zealand, before Kauri Cliffs or Jack’s Point ? 44th worldwide before courses such as (in totally different styles) Cruden Bay or Woodhall spa ? I strongly disagree. If you take out the setting, the lay out, in my humble opinion, is rather ordinary. I found 15, one of the holes where you get some of the nicest views, in itself uninteresting.
I have often wondered why a course like Old Head, in Ireland, which setting I find even more stunning than Cape Kidnappers, is not even in the World top 100, and in fact rather low in the British Isles ranking. Same question goes for Thracian Cliffs in Bulgaria, which I also would rank before Cape Kidnappers. These are courses I played a few years back, with less benchmarks and references. I imagined the weaker holes accounted for that.
But I do not find them any weaker than Cape Kidnappers. And even the greatest courses have some weak holes. Royal County Down is a top league course despite its less interesting back nine because of an out of this world front nine.
So what explains that difference of treatment ? An excessive hype around Tom Doak design ? I would be curious to hear your views.
Likewise I had mixed feelings about Cape Kidnappers - and also about Jacks Point and Kauri Cliffs. All of these "Top NZ Courses" (throw Tara Iti and the Hills in there too) are NOT NZ courses. They are American courses in NZ and designed to bleed as much money from tourists as possible, whilst keeping NZ golfers away. If you are coming to NZ to play golf, sure - play and enjoy these, but also go to some proper NZ golf clubs, meet some kiwi golfers and enjoy the challenge of NZ style golf courses.
Regarding your comments around Britain and Ireland Course ratings - I have always felt the ratings on here are:
1. Biased towards Surrey courses
2. Biased against hotel/resort courses
Having just been to New Zealand last year to play all the mentioned courses as well as Cape Kidnappers in part I agree with some of your comments. It felt far less dramatic than what you see in all the photos of the fingers of land running into the Pacific. However, the brilliance of it and a large part of the reason for its high acclaim boil down to the beauty of the routing over a property that while spectacular is far from ideal golf land and this is exactly why it enjoys the rankings that it receives. Naturally rankings are subjective so opinions will vary greatly just as your does. However, the more you see the more you realize what fits your eye and what you really like. For me, Jack’ Point and Kauri Cliffs were 100% about the amazing views and worth going to see just for that. Most people will visit them and think they are among the best courses they have every seen but not realize that the golf course design and the routings on both leaves a lot to be desired. Neither of those are anywhere near my personal Top 100 for example. However, for another person they will be the greatest golf experience on the planet.
Old Head is another fitting into the above category indeed. The main critiques are usually surrounding the internal holes which are bland at best. Add this to the general opinion that few of the perimeter holes are of great architecture and when you complete the picture it falls short, not from a “take your breath away” perspective by any means but simply from a golf course architecture perspective and routing one. This is what makes the general consensus among many panelist feel that Cape Kidnappers would be far stronger hole for hole and with regards to the architect making the most of the property than Old Head for example. Again, it’s subjective and you and anyone else can feel totally different and still be right in terms of what suits your eye or what’s more fun for you.
Interesting comments, I might give you that there are some American parkland-like courses in NZ but Tara Iti is about as American as haggis. There are 40k + courses in the US and less than 10 links courses if we really stretch the definition. I’ve managed to play a few courses in the US over the years including most of the US top 100 for example and I can’t for the life of me think of anything even similar to Tara Iti. What am I missing? Would you consider the likes of Pacific Dunes, Sand Hills or Fryers Head typical American courses? What about Barnbougle and Capewickham?
I’d also be very curious to hear how you might defend the position of the Surrey bias. Outside of being full of Golden Age architecture by some of the great names in GCA it’s also an area that is largely built up with sand pockets that allow for the best possible playing conditions outside of the links courses in the UK and Ireland. Those are exactly the reasons the courses in Surry receive so much acclaim. What would you say should take their place and why?
As for hotel and resort courses, this is also simple to figure out. In many cases hotel and resort courses have been built for completely different reasons than other courses. The aim often has a push in the direction of creating open, easy and fun courses where golf was not the main intent or the main revenue driver, where maintenance is much less of a cost for example. Costs are often cut and courses can take on “dumbed down” versions of what might exist for a private members club or even at many high end public course. Again however, there may always be exceptions and there are plenty. What example could you offer that would back up your statement? I’d be very interested to hear that.
Hi dd in nl.
I guess you are right. As there are 40k courses in USA there is no single style. However many aspects of Tara iti I've only seen in American courses before. It certainly doesn't remind me of UK links or anything else in NZ.
The Surrey bias is due to money. Very average routings like New Zealand are at 60 whilst courses like Northamptonshire county, Coxmoor dont make it at all.
Regarding resort courses. Ok I'm arguing against myself somewhat here I know but the back 9 at forest of Arden is possibly my favourite 9 holes in England. And I could play that 4 times for what my round at NZ or Woking cost.
According to the 2015 “Golf around the World” study, by US organization National Golf Foundation, which was funded by the R&A: There are approx. 34K golf courses in the world, with around 16K of these in the US (I thought it was around 24K).
If you’ve enjoyed any of the World Top 100, then you’ve been teeing it up within the top 0.29% of all Golf Courses.
Not played Golf in NZ yet, so that’s all I’ve got to offer
Is it a parkland course if it's laid out along cliff tops without any park? Should there be a 'spare no cost' category to define routings such as this?
Can I come back and play again please?
It's all been said about the clearly spectacular nature of this golf course, so I shall not repeat hole specifics but will say the constant undulations are ever changing and the conditioning was superb (I was one of four players that day!). Everything about the course from arrival to departure was top class and I genuinely can't fault it. But and it's the only but I can think about for Cape Kidnappers, it just didn't blow me away like Barnbougle Dunes & Lost Farm do.
Still, brilliant golf on a brilliant sunny and mostly calm day and in a magnificent part of the world. Stay a few days in Napier and the region in general; you won't regret it.
Fairways and greens are perfect. Front nine with up and down hills. Back nine more flat. Greens well defended.
New Zealand is a lot bigger than one might think. Our initial thought was to stay the night in Kerikeri and then drive down to Napier the next day. The distance didn’t seem too unreasonable for US standards, 8 hours, relaxed, so what, right? Well, in the end we decided to fly. Best. Decision. Ever. Taking domestic flights in New Zealand is super relaxed. Show up 15 minutes before departure…no worries. The car rental company will have a tin can for you to leave your key in when they are closed. The gentleman at the check-in didn’t open up until 10 minutes before departure. That meant we had stressed for nothing arriving 12 minutes before departure. The problem with driving in NZ is that this relaxed attitude carries over to the roads and after 23 years of living in Europe, driving as slow as they do here is extremely stressful. Our experience with flying here was wonderful and entertaining as well. The one minus point was between Kerikeri and Napier my clubs decided not to make it.
Cape Kidnappers has long been hailed as the #1 course in New Zealand and when you finally get to play your clubs are off on a trip of their own. Luckily the club offers very high-end rentals and that was a very welcome surprise upon arrival. I have to say the course really surprised me in that I had expected most of it to be spectacularly placed along the cliffs and while this was the case most of the time you don’t exactly realize it. It truly is the end of the planet and nearly everyone has seen the spectacular photos of the almost finger-like cliffs with fairways stretching out towards the sea. In fact, the front nine is excellent and enjoys a wonderful routing through very interesting rolling terrain but the cliffs and the sea are nowhere to be seen for much of it.
The par 4 5th hole has the most spectacular green complex on the front 9 and offers the first real sensation of where exactly we find ourselves. The par 3 6th hole plays from cliff top to cliff top and is a visually tough shot and depending on the wind can also be an even greater challenge ranging anywhere from 6 iron to driver from the back tees.
The back 9 is arguably the stronger and more spectacular of the two, though I have heard a difference of opinion here. One of my favorite holes – perhaps a bit cliché – was the long par 4 12th “infinity” which runs out to the end of the world, or so it seems. The infinity green is perched far atop one of the finger outcroppings and sits high above the cliffs and Hawkes Bay.
The very short par 3 13th may well be my favorite hole on the course and with that I start to see a pattern in my appreciation for Doak’s short holes. I think he has developed mastery in this area. On his best courses he seems to throw in some simply amazing and treacherous short 3’s and 4’s. Then I’m thinking along the lines of Tara Iti, Barbougle and Pacific Dunes. All having standout short holes.
This short par three plays only to 112 meters but beware as danger lurks around every corner. It plays from the end of one cliff top finger to another. As dramatic a landscape you may never find. It also has one of the most spectacular “catch” bunkers in the world that sits back left between the green and the abyss. It’s a scary bunker but believe me when I say that I ended up there is blessing from above, as missing anyplace else on the left is like falling off the edge of the planet.
Coming in Doak has routed this course at the highest level and finishes with a classic punch bowl green on the 18th. However, if he witnessed where my ball came to rest he would have had a heart attack and claimed the maintenance was slightly off. It did give us a good laugh though.
I don’t need to say this but a visit to Cape Kidnappers should be on every golf fanatics bucket list. It’s that good even if it’s no longer the number 1 course in New Zealand. Leave it to Doak to find a way to out do himself at what feels like the most remote location in the world for golf.
The entry drive at Cape Kidnappers is dramatic, right up there with Sand Hills, Morfontaine, Yeamans Hall and Kauri Cliffs. Cape Kidnappers has been one of the most hyped courses built in the last twenty years. It begins with a good first hole, but overall I found the 2nd through 6th, 10th, 11th and 17th a bit underwhelming relative to expectations.
The course has very wide fairways, and Tom Doak, the course designer, always leaves a bailout area and a more forgiving route to the green for less skilled players. This less skilled player, for one, appreciates this design philosophy. The other side of this design philosophy is that if you play aggressively and make a mistake, there is a big penalty. The big penalty at Cape Kidnappers is being in the high rough, which is almost certainly a lost ball.
Despite the initial letdown of the front, I did like the variety of hole types. The course has some short par threes and some short par fours, which are nice because they take away the tedium of hitting hybrid clubs off the fairway all day long.
Cape Kidnappers also puts a premium on putting, 'cause there ain't a flat green out there. I enjoyed the par three sixth hole, which reminded me a bit of the "Calamity" par three at Royal Portrush, but with the big drop-off on the left side of the hole instead of on the right. The hole plays over 200 yards and is a tester. It offers a preview of the immensity of the rocky gorges to come. The drop from the green to the water below is over 500 feet.
Like Cypress Point, Kidnappers features back-to-back par fives. The sixteenth is a par five in the opposite direction from the fifteenth, this time playing downwind. The hole is only 500 yards from the tips. The fairway heaves quite a bit in different directions, and the green is elevated and funky. It is a very different hole than the fifteenth and has a wide fairway.
Cape Kidnappers is in many respects ultimately like Pebble Beach. What makes Pebble Beach so great is a half dozen spectacular holes, which compensate for many holes that are good, but not great. Cape Kidnappers also has a collection of holes that are so superior in their own right that they make up for some average holes and make it a worthy course to be included among the best in the world.
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This course had been on my mind for many years, probably like everybody else, after having seen the aerial pictures. Even if the feeling on the ground is different, the site doesn't disappoint a minute. And the drive to get there is quite unique. You feel at the end of the world. And having the course to myself emphasized that feeling even more.
Conditions were benign on the front nice and then the wind machine got on big time making the back nine very tough. The unusual direction of the wind, from the land and not from the sea, made the last 3 holes especially tough (17th and 18th being respectively 423 and 439 m par 4s).
The overall experience is awesome. The par 3s are terrific (11th, 205 m into a 3 club wind at least?? Good luck!!). I might suggest that the two par 5s on the front nine were quite average, so is the 17th. The long par 5 15th has been a little criticized here, but let me tell you that with the strong wind in the back that I had, the 3rd shot is a deadly one, with some 100 odd meters or so of free fall literally on the edge of the back of the green.
Now is it an architectural masterpiece or just a great course in a fantastic location? I don't really mind. I was just blown away by the whole thing. And they say Kauri Cliffs even has better scenery, I can't wait...
Cape Kidnappers – can only be described as a Tom Doak masterpiece, and the day I chose to play CK, could only be described as almost Melbournian. I left Napier in drizzly rain, 20 k’s up the road, brilliant sunshine. It was nearly an hour’s drive and on arrival – back to bleak and daunting.
There are only about 5000 rounds played here per year, but they really do it right at CK. On arrival, valet equivalent enquires if gear is in the boot, rounds the lot up, sets it on a cart and readies it for play. My car then whisked away and parked, ‘somewhere’, and I was shown to the office of head pro, Jon McCord. Jon, a most genial ‘giant’ (about 6’ 15”) American who provided a warm welcome and gave me a ‘heads-up’ on the course, facilities and everything else a visitor might need to know. Then directed to the practice facility (world class everything) and advised I would be called to the tee shortly.
Rated by Top 100 Golf Courses of the World at a creditable, 40th, worldwide. I was subsequently slotted into a convivial group of punters of similar vintage to myself and hit off on a blustery, almost sunny, opening hole. This course plays to a par of 71, stretching to just over 6,500 metres from the tips. There are five sets of tees available and in our case the decision to go forward to the white blocks was unanimous.
Light rain and more wind by the end of three, fleeting sunshine again by five and piddling down again by mid seven – complete with chunks of ice (sleet) in the gale force wind. As cold as I have ever been on a golf course.
The par 4, 5th sports two fairway bunkers and offers an interesting ‘high or low road’ option from the tee. The left or ‘low’ being the preferred option for we mere mortals. Six is an outstanding par 3, of 190 odd metres. Across a huge gulley, to an elevated green and just making the short stuff may be the least of your concerns as the contours on this green will test the best.
Seven, at index two on the card is a corker. A pushed drive left me with little option than to pop a wedge over the crest on the fairway, leaving me a most exhilarating downhill approach to a long, narrow, devilishly tricky green. A great hole.
After putting out on eight, the wind and sleet really turned it on. I drove into the maelstrom to the 9th tee, turned the cart downwind, toward the green and a sudden gust plucked the windscreen from its mounting and deposited via an aerial route, some fifty odd metres downwind, towards the ladies’ tee.
My two sparing partners were part of a group of 14 and not overly concerned at dropping half of their ‘quite significant’ green fees and adjourned to be ‘backside up’ to a massive log fire at the bar, with a very ‘loaded’ hot toddy. Well, “Old Ma Croker never bred a squib” and after a liberal dose of Dr. Walker’s Scottish hypothermia preventative medicine and several minutes of dangling my hands under the hot tap in the toot, my replacement cart was readied for me and on the blocks for the back nine. Managed 15 stab. points on the front which seemed to be playing predominantly with the prevailing wind (gale) and into the back nine, which wasn’t.
The 11th is yet another formidable par 3 which plays considerably longer than the yardage indicated. The aptly named 12th, ‘Infinity’ requires a deft second as it culminates on a narrow green, seemingly, on the edge of the earth. 13 is the shortest hole on the course is to my mind, one of the best on the CK layout. Measuring just 120 odd metres, and can play anything from a lob wedge to a flat out mid iron depending on the conditions.
The 16th tee provides a scenic extravaganza prior to the run home. The quirky punchbowl green on eighteen a treat and a grand conclusion to the round. To my mind, the inward nine is probably a more stringent test of golf than the front, and certainly the more scenic. I completed the back nine in 16 stab points, 31 for the round. From the white blocks, on this course, under these conditions – stupendous.
An interesting aspect of this great Doak design is the contouring both on and around the greens. He calls for thought provoking and accurate play both to and on the greens, well prior to selecting the ‘flat stick’. I found the putting surfaces to be true, fast and consistent. The design, variety and contouring, first class, offering all manner of undulation, break and borrow. Pin placement options are unlimited as greens are of massive proportions. On average, they cover an area of 6,200 square feet or 576 square metres. Doak at his best.
My preconceived expectations based on the aerial photography were in reality not quite so significant on the ground. On playing the course, I must conclude that I found the fairways quite generous, the playing surface excellent and lies/contouring not overly severe. “Extreme golfing terrain” has been used by some reviewers (they may not have played Kinloch).
Here again, the infamous fescue grasses align the fairways, ready and willing to pilfer any errant pill. Like KC, the Irish Drop Rule is in existence at CK. "Any ball lost in the long rough may be treated as lost in a water hazard. One shot penalty at point of entry.” Practical, as it obviated my going back to replay a shot on several occasions. Only five – expletive – lost balls here.
Cape Kidnappers, a simply great golfing experience. Oh how I would like a return bout in a little less trying conditions. Golfing options abound in the Hawkes Bay area and for accommodation; I recommend visitors need look no further than the Best Western Ballina Motel in Napier. This clean, comfortable, self catering facility is centrally located and walking distance to great restaurants, clubs and bars. Mine host, the convivial Tim Stephens is ready and able to answer any golf related queries. Contact: firstname.lastname@example.org
Played this course on 1/15/2015, after Kauri cliffs but before Jack's Point.for 540 a round plus cart this just might be the worlds most overpriced golf course.the course is great nice layout not as scenic as Kauri Cliffs and not as difficult as Jacks Point ( I am a 60 yr old 3 hdcp played the blues).
The course is great, just not spectacular which is what the hype made it out to be The course is about 20 miles south of Napier which if you are visiting New Zealand for the first time should be on your top 2 places to visit. good golf great wineries and wonderful people.
Back to the golf, there was nothing wrong with this course, it just didn't live up to its overpriced hype..TIP. If you like Indian food Indigo in Napier just might be one of the top 5 Indian restaurants in the world. The 15th hole just might be one of top 5 golf holes in the world.
Upon reflection, the large number of positives absolutely outweighs the few negatives at this spectacular golf course. Doak’s routing across the farm is glorious whereby he created dramatic par threes over deep ravines, stunning par fours with spines running through fairways and blind drives to get your heart racing.
The 7th hole was by far my favourite hole, as it presents a plateau fairway followed by a huge dip before swooping back up to the protected raised green. You really don’t want to hit your drive over the plateau, as it will leave you with a tough approach shot up to an unforgiving putting surface. Hitting this green in regulation is a wonderful achievement and the topology will have you taking photographs from almost every angle.
Further highlights include the infinity green on number 12 where you naturally feel like you’re hitting into the end of the earth, which further echoes the sentiment of the excellent routing.
Doak offers plenty of width throughout the fairways which is very fair given the demands of the approach shots. An exciting element to this course is the shaping around the greens. I encourage visitors to take note of the humps and bumps around the greens which kick the ball mostly in your favour (par three 6th hole is a great example of this as well as the punchbowl 18th green).
I was really impressed by the constant change in elevation through many of the holes where you can’t see the green from the tee boxes. Some architects and golf analysts condemn this feature, whereas I celebrate and promote its genius. This course really has the wow factor and I only wish that more people would come to play it as it’s sincerely memorable and appealing to golfers of all levels. If you only had one course to play in New Zealand, it would be Cape Kidnappers.
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