Old Corkscrew - Florida - USA

Old Corkscrew Golf Club,
17320 Corkscrew,
Estero,
Florida (FL) 33928,
USA


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Debuting in 2007, the Jack Nicklaus Signature course at Old Corkscrew Golf Club weaves through a naturally wooded property that, fortunately, remains untouched by real estate.
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Description: Debuting in 2007, the Jack Nicklaus Signature course at Old Corkscrew Golf Club weaves through a naturally wooded property that, fortunately, remains untouched by real estate. Rating: 7.3 out of 10 Reviews: 4
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Mark White

Old Corkscrew, designed by Jack Nicklaus, is the best public golf in the greater Naples, Florida area. What I like the most about the course is that one sees no houses, condominiums, or other commercial development. Other than the clubhouse one only sees a large American flag behind the seventh green and visible from the greens of fifteen and the sixteenth hole.

What I dislike the most about the golf course is its inherent difficulty, particularly with overly done greens, water on eleven holes (two other holes have water but it should not be in play), and manufactured slopes and rises with the effect that a slightly mis-hit ball will suffer a severe consequence. Finally, there is rarely a chance at recovery unless one hits a perfect shot.

It is a golf course that one needs to know very well as to where to lay up, where one should err on their misses to avoid a double bogey, and an understanding of the greens. I studied most of the greens and while I could find an area that was flatter/easier in my two rounds there, the holes were not once in an one of those easier spots.

My hypothesis is that the owner told Mr. Nicklaus something like, ”build me a really hard and challenging golf course.” Mr. Nicklaus obliged. From the back tees, the yardage is 7393 with a rating of 76.6 and slope of 151. Moving up to the blue tees leaves a total yardage of 6617 with a rating of 73.2 and a slope of 146. Finally, the tee most people play due to the difficulty are the white tees which are 71.1 but a slope of 138; all versus a par 72.

I walked off nearly every green baffled by the outcome of my putts. I played the course for a second time on March 13, 2020 and the greens were treacherous. Uphill putts did not advance as far as I wanted yet they nearly always broke severely to one side once they lost pace. Downhill putts seemingly refused to stop but also overly broke away from the hole leaving sometimes a more difficult putt. I consider myself an above-average putter, but local knowledge is key to putting well here. Yet we played with two members who play here 3-5 times a week and they commented that they have never figured them out. They asked me numerous times, “are you cursing Mr. Nicklaus yet?” Well, I didn’t curse him but I did walk off the golf course with no feelings of joy or wanting to play it immediately again.

Another statement made by the members was “playing bogey golf here is a good outcome.” Really? That certainly does not seem to qualify as a good day of golf.

We started on the blue tees but as my friend was having a bad day after the fourth hole, we moved up to the white tees at 6222 where the two members were playing. Some of the par 4 holes definitely got easier from an approach shot standpoint, but they may have gotten slightly harder from a tee standpoint as more trouble came into play.

The par 3’s are long from those back tees and more manageable from the white tees. The second is 221/194/140, the seventh is 244/218/172, the twelfth is 189/166/140 and the seventeenth is 176/146/130. Of the par 3’s the easiest is the seventh due to the easiest green on the golf course whereas the other three greens all have ridges, tiers, fall-offs and swales as well as bunkers that are more in play. I managed to par three of them. Twice I had reasonable chances at birdie but barely made par due to the crazy undulations on the greens.

The par 5’s are oddly laid out. The third hole of 575/522/508 is a double dogleg due to the green situated with water fronting part of it and to the left. On my second round the pin was about as far back left as it could be which meant the ideal line was coming in from the right. In our case the player coming in 140 yards away could not hold the green as his ball trickled off to the left but thankfully did not go into the water.

The eighth hole is a short par 5 of 544/504/486 requiring a drive over water and then either going for the green, laying up with a 100-yard shot, or playing down the right side about 140-160 yards to avoid a large waste area fronting the green. The longer hitter will easily go for the green which has a hill behind it to stop a ball from going too far. There does not seem to be any advantage to hitting down the left. It is a weird hole.

The next par 5 is the eleventh, another shorter hole at 547/499/482 which bends to the right off the tee but the green sits back to the left at the water’s edge. It has one of the easier greens because it seemingly is sloped only one way. For the person who mis-judges the length of the approach shot they will either be in the water or go over the green into a lost ball position. It is another odd hole.

The final par 5 is the fifteenth, another double dogleg listed at 619/552/529 but the longer hitter can try to carry the waste area and eliminate nearly 100 yards. There is a somewhat hidden pond on the right side for the second shot. The green is silly, with a tier about five feet high. I simply do not understand how a green like this is ever built on a golf course.

The par 4’s have a good variety of length with four shorter par 4’s. My criticism of the shorter par 4’s is that the greens are small, particularly the sixteenth which is one of the smallest greens I have ever seen. The sixteenth is 396/315/299 with bunkers down the left side, and a mound down the right side that kicks everything right into the trees and bushes. There are additional bunkers fronting the very tiny green which also has slope to it and a fall-off behind. It is a maddeningly frustrating hole as it requires perfection. It is somewhat telling when one is pleased with a bogey on a short par 4.

The other short par 4’s are fine in terms of bunker placement and angles into the greens. I do think the greens could be another 10% larger.

The longer par 4’s are very good. These holes are the first, sixth, the tenth, fourteen and eighteen. I liked each of these holes very much although my criticism of the greens still holds. The tenth takes nice advantage of a hill on the right that one has to get around. The fourteenth is a lovely dogleg right to a green situated on a rise that looks like it requires an additional club but actually plays level. Eighteen has a lovely shaped green.

Overall, I do like the golf course. It is a course that I would either want to be a member under their semi-private membership plan so I could learn the greens, or it is a course I would only play once a year as my ego might not be able to withstand the continuous frustrations as the demand for perfection is high here.

March 22, 2020
6 / 10
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Larry Jacobs

This course is a Trifecta. It makes this list of top 100 FL golf courses. It is a US Open qualifier course. It is also the home of Dunk City, aka FGCU golf team. I like the par 3 on the back where you can pay 10 bucks to win the hole in one prize. It has a camera on the green to prove that the Ace was authentic. I love it. Great idea guys. Well done and thank you!

December 05, 2019
9 / 10
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Colin Braithwaite

Old Corkscrew located in southwest Florida is a Nicklaus design. As Florida is pretty flat, not surprisingly, so is the course. Not a lot elevation changes and perhaps the most undulation one will find is on the green complexes. Having played too may Florida courses, I appreciate the lack of houses and condos on this one.

The first hole is a good welcoming hole. Slight dogleg right, favor the left side off the tee to avoid the fairway bunker right. The front of the green is protected with bunkers left and right. Be careful not to get lost en route to the second hole, at the fork bear right. We ended up near the 7th green as did the group behind us. The 2nd is your standard par 3. Pay attention to the pin location on this redan green as club selection could vary 3-4 clubs. The reveers S par 5 third is a good risk reward hole. Long hitters need to be right off the tee to set up a 2nd shot over the water hazard. For the rest of us, play smart and give yourself a flip wedge to another redan green. The short driveable 4th is a fun hole. A large fairway bunker meanders down the left and middle of the fairway. Water left and two greenside bunkers. This is penthouse or outhouse type of hole. The 5th is a dogleg left with water left and a fairway bunker on the outside elbow. Also, be forewarned drives will roll left. Another well protected green with bunkers right and left front. The par 4 6th is a long what you see is what you get par 4. The fairway bunker left is easily carried, heck if I can do it….The 7th is another standard par 3. The par 5 8th can be reached, but not by the faint of heart or golfers like me. Favor the right off the tee and favor the right on your second shot to set up your attack wedge. The 9th is a classic Nicklaus hole, dogleg right with the green perched in a water hazard. Right off the tee is better, be wary of being blocked out. As long as you avoid the fairway cross bunker on the left you should be fine. Regardless, the approach can be daunting over the water hazard.

The back starts with a mcgilla par 4. Dogleg right with bunkers on the inside elbow and water left. For the approach, water on the right and another green protected with bunkers right and left front. The 11th is a good risk reward dogleg left par 5. Big hitters can get home in two, but the 2nd shot will be just about all carry. Off the tee, fairway bunkers right and water left. The 12th will look similar to the earlier par 3s. Redan green with water left. The 13th is a good birdie oppty. Staggered right and left fairway bunkers. A good tee shot should result in a green light approach. The dogleg right 14th is a bite off as much as you can chew par 4. Be careful as you can drive through this fairway. BAB left of this elevated green, that probably requires an extra club. I suppose some people can get home in two on the 619 yard dogleg left par 5 15th, but I certainly do not know them. Play it as a 3 shotter. The short 16th is a good birdie oppty. If you hit driver you must be left to avoid the large fairway bunker. The last par 3 is the opposite hand of the other par 3s. Redan green right to left with water on the right. The long par 4 18th is an excellent finishing hole. A fairway bunker right pushes you left and the water hazard left pushes you right. You need to hit two good shots to find this green in two.

Overall, a good course. It was nice to see that Nicklaus could design holes that go left. The par 3s are pretty but not real challenging. I think the strength of the course are the risk/reward short par 4s and par 5s.

November 08, 2019
6 / 10
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Brian Moran

Old Corkscrew is among the most challenging golf courses I've ever played. It is in my opinion the best course in the Naples area. Corkscrew is pretty unique when it comes to Florida golf; no homes lie on the property and the holes wind through pines. The course itself has a lot of variety, with a lot of risk reward holes, the pinnacle of which is the 345 yard par 4 fourth hole.

June 25, 2018
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