Laid out on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, The pay and play facility at Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles endured something of a troubled golfing gestation before it finally opened to the public in 2006.
The course was originally developed for Ocean Trails Golf Club in the late 1990s but a landslide caused much of the 18th fairway to slip away from its cliff edge position towards the Pacific during construction.
The resulting stabilisation work cost millions of dollars and ultimately forced the club into bankruptcy, allowing the Trump Organization to step in and rescue the project in 2002. Following further costly repairs, the 18-hole layout finally opened for play on 20 January 2006.
It’s said that Donald Trump himself made "improvements" to the original Pete and Perry Dye design, softening greens, repositioning bunkers, removing some of the forced carries and adding a number of elevated tee boxes.
Unfortunately, the course was scheduled to host the annual end of season PGA Grand Slam of Golf tournament in 2015 but the event was cancelled due in large part to the then presidential contender’s controversial comments about illegal immigration.
I suppose you have to note any review of a Trump Property with a 'all politics aside' caveat. My comments here are about the golf property and golf course alone.
Having said that, I can't for the life of me figure out why this golf course appears on any ranking of even the top 100 in California. If you're only in it for the views (outstanding), amenities (very good for semi-private) and course conditions (close to top notch), maybe?
My two major thoughts on the golf course are:
1) there just isn't enough room to have a golf course on the land it sits on if you would like it to be playable for all skill levels. I'll refrain from too much personal play narrative but I fluctuate between a 7 and an 8 marker and there's no way I could ever play this course to my number or even within 5 shots of it. Who wants to be tortured with awkward angled fairways that are 20 yards wide with absolutely no bail out on every hole?
As an example, i found the 10th hole to be one of the worst designed short par 4's I've ever encountered. A short par 4 should reward the safe play with a reasonably easy par and give the player a tee shot that makes eagle or birdie an option while bringing double into play with a miss. I honestly thought the short shot from the layup on this hole was tougher than tee shot that I should have just attempted. If the layup area is 15 yards wide with with bunkers and OB on both sides, why would anyone ever lay up?
2) the lack of memorable holes. I was going back through in my mind and aside from another truly awkward par 5 on the back (maybe 13 or 14) where you're basically hitting 2 Iron, 8 iron, wedge and any other play is just stupid, nothing stood out as particularly good (none) or bad (except #10 and that hole).
I don't want to post a fully trash review here as the staff were incredibly friendly, the range was great, views out of this world and I definitely felt welcomed. Again, having said that, I can't imagine ever playing the golf course again. It's no fun. It's (that dreaded word) unfair at times. There are many public places in the LA area that are much better golf courses off the top of my head if you're taking conditions out of the equation (Rancho, Wilson, Santa Anita, Rustic Canyon, Oak Quarry, Goose Creek, heck even Angeles National which isn't my favorite but is equally good with amenities if lacking the views.)
As an experience, I'll give it 4/6 and as a golf course, -1/6 leading to the 3.
The weather was perfect for my afternoon round at Trump National LA.
One of my young playing partners wanted to see all of the course so I joined him on the 7,056 yard black tees. I'm 65 years old, I may be long for my age but I am by no means long. I was reminded of M. James Ward's review, “a number of holes can easily prove overwhelming”. What was in store for me!
The morning before driving to Trump LA I had read the Top 100 golf courses article Architecture Glossary-Line of Charm. The view up the fairway on the first hole reminded me of the phrase “freeway golf”. This freeway opinion would remain with me for the entire front nine. That said, on holes five, six, and nine I needed my best just to get to the fairway. Adding a black tee and not reshaping the landing area is no way to lengthen a golf course.
Making the turn we could not find the black tee for the 440 yard tenth. Thankfully so for this would have ruined what was for me a fun short par four.
My near boredom with the tee shots at Trump LA ended on the fourteenth tee. Elevation change, contoured fairway, and well placed bunkers, the first golf hole I liked. Fifteen and sixteen also proved to be nice holes.
On seventeen history repeated itself. We could not find the 240 yard tee on the par three. Again I was thankful. At 201 yards the par three was enough to be a good hole.
Disappointingly, we did find the 503 yard tee for the par four eighteenth. From this hill of sand that does not fit the surroundings golfers can not see anything of the fairway. All the more disappointing because the bunkering down the left side is one of the best features on the entire course. The blue tee makes the hole 392 yards and too short for a memorable finishing hole.
To summarize my afternoon at Trump LA. I have no desire to play the course again.
I will add one comment. I hope some can see the joke in this. On the first hole I noticed unraked footprints in the bunker. Again at the second, unraked footprints. Same at the third. Now I started looking and hole after hole the same thing, unraked bunkers despite an ample supply of rakes. Is there something about the golfer who frequents Trump golf courses that they do not feel the need to leave a bunker presentable for the next golfer.
Jeff's comments are spot on -- the layout is force fed on a difficult site and, as a result, you are left with a number of holes that can easily prove overwhelming for anything but the more accomplished player.
Undoubtedly, the major plus is the scenery but why pay such a lofty price to play simply because of a view when one can do from another nearby location?
The putting green shapes and contours were mentioned by others and I do concur but having more hole variety and tests of different skills with the clubs is fairly predictable.
Pete Dye went a bit overboard as so many of the features were simply added to the site rather than blended in more smartly. Frankly, what was Pete thinking with the site? This is the same guy who delivered with The Ocean Course and Whistling Straits -- right?
I can only imagine iif Rustic Canyon had the added virtue of Pacific Ocean scenery?
I've played the course twice and I thought my return visit would open up my eyes. It did -- there won't be a third visit.
M. James Ward
Everything I remember about Trump LA has very little to do with the golf, but instead the views of the Pacific, which are incredible. Much of the golf course is stuck into a hill providing a mountain terrain on the ocean, which isn’t a great fit. The green were relatively interesting, but much of the course is tight corridors and hills that kick balls sideways. However the 18th is great finishing hole and provides one last view of the ocean.
I don’t know if I would suggest playing Trump LA mostly because of the astronomical green fees and forgettable golf holes, unless you are looking for a course with lots of ocean views.
Not deserving of the recognition it receives, it is well maintained, there are some challenging holes, although its also a gimmicky course stuffed into a hillside over the ocean.
Let’s try and keep politics out of this review, shall we?
I played this course on a trip to Los Angeles and Palm Springs in which I also played several PGA West courses. Trump National played very differently from the desert layouts. First off, the scenery at Trump National is unreal. The views of the ocean, Santa Catalina Island, and surrounding Rancho Palos Verdes landscape are simply stunning, rivaling Pebble Beach or Torrey Pines in that regard. It’s especially apparent at the highest points of the course, holes #2 through #4, where the entire course unfolds on the slope below you. Unfortunately, scenery where the similarities with those top tier layouts end.
My overarching takeaway from Trump National was that things were made to look top-of-the-line, but underneath everything felt a little bit cheap. The course was a very stark green with bright white sand in contrast to the browns and blues of the landscape, but the fairways and greens were a bit shaggy and overwatered. The routing itself wasn’t anything spectacular, as most holes were routed down narrow corridors east-west across the property between artificial mounds. Very few holes truly take advantage of the spectacular terrain as I’m sure it was designed for forgiveness rather than challenge, and whatever Trump did after taking over the previously failed property probably made it even more so.
I’d consider it worth a twilight rate of <$100 if you can get it, but not much more than that, and purely for the scenery.
Played March 18, 2014
Views were fantastic; conditioning was excellent; winter weather was perfect; most of the front nine was a little bland (up and down) despite the views; some very interesting holes at 8, 9, 12, 15 and 16.
I don’t agree with the previous reviewer’s comments on the greens. They were extremely fast and when combined with some severe countours several were unfair. Front left pin position on 1 saw three of the four in our group putt off the green. The 12th green has a nearly six foot step from the middle to back sections.
Overall, I enjoyed the round (a strong 4* ) but won’t be rushing back.
The rack rate for the Sunday morning round was USD275 but a website called UnderPar provided a discounted rate of USD150.
And...my mate and I were joined with two middle-aged locals...who listened to music on a portable speaker and smoked (now legal) joints the entire way around. I don’t recall a similar experience at Sunningdale...
Given the hype surrounding this course (their web site calls it the best course in California), I was prepared to be disappointed. But the place does have some redeeming value, the most obvious of which is views of the Pacific Ocean (and, on a clear day of Santa Catalina Island) from every hole. The ocean views are the result of the course being benched into a hillside. This became a problem during its first life as Ocean Trails, when most of the 18th fairway slid into the Pacific. Much of the $250 million spent on resurrection by the Trump organization was used to stabilize the finishing hole. Manny, the starter, says he watched the entire reconstruction and tells me he has no qualms about it. “If the entire town starts to slide,” he says, “I’m heading straight to the 18th green. It’s the safest place around.”
The golf doesn’t quite match the views, but most of Pete Dye’s green complexes remain and they are spectacular. The most audacious is the 12th, an upside down potato chip that you can’t help but smile about as it first reveals itself. All the greens have undulations and that provides multiple options for recovery when an approach shot misses the green. I miscalculated on more than one occasion.
Away from the greens, the course is less interesting. Some holes allow options for the approach shot, but the majority will only accept an aerial shot. There are a number of narrow fairways where a miss will land in the deep underbrush never to be seen again. And other than at the 5th, 6th, and 16th, there’s no strategic thought required from the tee….one side of the fairway is as good as another.
Trump National is a cartball course….I saw no other walkers. Besides the ocean views, there’s one other feature that will remind golfers from the other side of the Atlantic of home: the walking paths that are interlaced with the holes. Unlike some courses in the British Isles (Nefyn & District comes immediately to mind) dozens of locals manage a seaside perambulation without disturbing the golf.