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Many things have been written about Rye and I like and respect all of the traditions that many now moan about.
Rye is a very special enclave AND a very good course too.
Would lobpve to play it again and would love to somehow play the hole back along the "spine" well (the 4th I think it is).
Great course and great golf history and tradition.
When one rates a facility through a one-time visit you are limited to the situation you faced that time. What the weather was like that day. Was the wind blowing from the prevailing side or was it different? What were the turf conditions like -- did the course play optimally fast or was it overly spongy? Where were the pin placements located? Given all that -- my visit to Rye was one I was looking forward to for quite some time.
I had read much on the club and clearly its pedigree in golf circles is well respected. Plenty of people have weighed in with the eccentricities and idiosyncratic nature of the club. These items, for me, are more sideshow than main event. An analogy, I don't go to the movies to eat the popcorn. It's the same philosophy I take with golf courses. The primary emphasis is the holes -- number 1 through 18. The rest is merely a contributory element but in no way is it the primary area for my attention.
On my visit I had a mixed bag of weather -- some clouds, a little sun and a splash of raindrops all within the cumulative round.
The wind was clearly a factor -- 2-3 clubs consistently. The wind was blowing in a steady direction -- off the Channel and across the line of play on all of the holes with 1-2 exceptions.
The opening trio of holes at Rye is rather vanilla. Frankly, if a club is going to have just one par-5 I was hoping it would be a hole in the same caliber of the top tier holes found at Rye. It is not. The challenge is rather pedestrian. No doubt there will be those who will assert the 1st provides the lone really good birdie opportunity against the slew of holes to follow. I have no issue with a birdie opportunity hole -- just provide a bit more architectural heft in its overall presentation. As an example, the 17th at Wannamoisett in Rhode Island also features just one par-5 hole. However, it comes at the 17th and clearly has a major impact on settling matches coming to a conclusion.
The 2nd and 3rd are sufficient for what they offer but neither really stands apart as being compelling architecturally. They are not bad holes per se, just not standouts.
The round at Rye really commences at the 4th. In many ways Rye is similar to another course that starts in much the same manner -- Bethpage State Park's Black Course. The Long Island-based layout really jumpstarts matters when you arrive at the awesome looking par-5 4th. At Rye, the 4th is truly a riveting hole. You play in the opposite direction from the first three and the hole is situated on the top of a ridge line. Hitting the fairway is an absolute must -- those wishing to achieve the best angle playing down the right side -- albeit fraught with demands -- can provide the ideal line to the putting surface. Candidly, I am quite puzzled that the preceding 3rd hole is cited as the 3 handicap hole and the 4th as the 7th. In my mind, the designation should have been flipped.
Beyond the 2nd hole, Rye is blessed with four other par-3 holes that are quite special. At the par-3 5th, which plays 171 yards from the metal tees, the green is elusive to all but the most skillful of plays. Given the location of the teeing area -- the exposure to the wind is clearly an issue. The green appears like a rumpled piece of paper with all sorts of devilish fall-offs. Challenging a tight pin when pushed to the far corners is one any golfer attempt with great peril awaiting.
The 6th and 7th continue the flow and are both solid holes. The former a long par-4 that requires a solid tee shot. Fortunately, when I played it the wind was from the right and slightly helping. At the latter the par-3 is a quality hole. Not as fiendish as the 5th but not one to suffer fools gladly.
The stretch of holes from number 8 through the short par-4 11th is a bit of a letdown. The momentum encountered with the previous four drops slightly. More so with the short par-4's at the 9th and 11th holes respectively. It's ironic that a course with so many par-4's the inclusion of a world class short par-4 is simply not on the menu here.
Once you reach the par-4 12th the run back to the clubhouse is simply first rate. The rightly celebrated par-4 13th is one of golf's finest holes. You need to hit the fairway to have any opportunity in reaching the green in the regulation stroke. The blind shot is one that tests the wherewithal of the player to marry proper distance, line and trajectory. Make a four there and you are certain to be commended.
But, even with success at #13 -- the finishing five holes are akin to battling Darth Vader with a light sabre. You cannot flinch -- you cannot make half-hearted executions. The par-3 17th is the last of the par-3 holes -- its length is a challenge but the architectural inclusions are a step down from the other short holes played.
The concluding hole ends the day with one final stern test. The diagonal nature as you ascend the ridge makes for a tough driving hole. Played with a controlled fade for right-handers is essential. Anything hit with the slightest tug or hook can mean serious pain on the scorecard. The approach is no less stellar. The putting surface immediately near the low level clubhouse truly caps the day.
Rye is one of those few layouts that requires a number of rounds to really digest all the key ingredients of what it provides. My solo round gave me the tip of the iceberg and likely my comments might face an adjustment on all sides with a return to see if my first impressions were spot on.
The most pressing element I found at Rye is the need for top tier driving. So many courses today allow for loose shots off the tee. Not at Rye. If one cannot consistently hit your driver for both length and accuracy you will be exposed and suffer the consequences.
I can't give the course a six-star rating. There are some deficiencies which I illuminated earlier. But there's no doubt that among the courses I have played in England or the UK for that matter -- Rye is one to have on your agenda. When you think you've reached a high caliber of play -- head to Rye. In under four hours - the club won't tolerate slow play -- you'll find out if what you thought was true is actually that.
by M. James Ward
What a wonderful surprise! Having played 19 out of the top 20 courses in the British Isles I believe Rye definitely should be among them. Even though the course is a private one the Secretary was very nice and available in offering us a tee time on a Saturday afternoon. The weather was perfect with a sunny warm and windy day. Even though my score has been pretty poor the experience was great, with some really magnificent holes I won't forget. Several holes are affected by huge mounds where you have to play typical llinks blind shots. Don't miss the experience if you are in the area!
After three straightaway holes at the foot of a large dune ridge – the first being the only par five on the course, the short second the pick of this opening trio and the third the first of many stellar par fours - holes four, five, six and seven highlight the very best of Rye.
The fourth is as good as it is uncomfortable to play but I mean that in a good way. The central ridge that runs through the spine of the course is tackled along the top here with a terrifying drive to a hogs-back fairway – severe chasms at both sides - before a daunting approach to a tilted green.
The fifth is a continuation of this vertigo inducing golf but comes in the form of a one-shotter played 171 yards to a sloping green with a severe embankment to the left. At the sixth you must drive diagonally over the dune ridge and hope for a little draw on your ball to eke out some extra distance at this magnificent hole that calls for an exact approach which must negotiate some ferocious sand traps.
Finally the 7th, perhaps the most famous hole at Rye, is a devilish par three which falls away on all sides and certainly makes good on the notion that the hardest shots at Rye are the second shots into the short holes!
After a sequence of four holes, none of which really float my boat with perhaps the exception of the just about driveable ninth, things pick up again with five of the final six holes exceptionally strong. The 13th may not be regarded as the best hole in this exciting run for home but it is certainly the most unusual, quirky and memorable. This time you switch from one side of the dominant dune ridge to the other with your blind approach shot! Aligning the two marker posts will give you an indication of the line but until you mount the rise and see your ball either on our close to the green you are never sure.
Hole 14 is yet another good short hole with a particularly narrow green, tapering towards the rear, whilst 15 and 16 are two more exceptional par fours; the approach to the former and the drive, to a raised skyline fairway, at the latter being the highlights.
Before you play the magnificent and demanding 18th the long par-three 17th – the weakest hole in the final third – contrasts to the other short holes and although the tee-shot is uninspiring the green complex is superb.
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Loved the Rye experience, including wearing a tie and jacket for lunch ! The course is very, very good. I cannot recall any weak holes (which is unusual as most courses, even much lauded courses have them even if it is only 1 or 2). Standout holes for me were 6, 9, 12, 13 & 18. Please make the effort to contact the Club to request a tee time. I received a positive response in very short order when I enquired and everyone at the club both inside and outside of the clubhouse were very welcoming to me on the day.
Played 36 holes, first round on the tough Jubilee Course and then the Old course. My learnings from the day include:-
1. Take up the offer of hitting a few warm up balls. Even on the “relief” course, it is a tough opening hole. In fact no easy holes throughout the whole club.
2. Take plenty of balls or leave driver in car.
3. Play at another time of year as rough is incredible.
4. Take two caddies and put them 200yards away, 15 metres into the rough.
5. If a 4 hcp from Long Reef in Sydney ever plays a 4 hcp from Rye put your money on Rye.
On medal days, if the wind is up I doubt anyone would finish their round on this course as it was set up today, 25 June. I did not get to walk too many fairways as I was trudging through the rough hoping to find a ball, any ball. Expecting to ease into it by playing the Jubilee first I left it a broken man. Simply put, even on this course, you cannot find your ball. It does not lighten up on the Old course either. As mentioned below a great course for match play, where triple bogeys will often win the hole.
The course is very good. The fairways tight but not pristine, a little rough but even enough, a few mushrooms scattered around but the greens were very good. There are a couple dune ridges running throughout the course and they provide some drama and great looking holes. Unfortunately the dunes don’t really frame both sides of too many holes so it’s not like a Cruden Bay or Royal Aberdeen experience and as a result it is a solid 5 baller.
I was well received by the staff but at 175 pds for golf alone it is not a cheap day out. Cheaper if you play foursomes but I did not have that option available to me. On this day the sun was out, the wind was around 20mph going across most holes and there were very few people on the course which is almost a permanent feature of my experiences playing links golf. Warren from Australia.
I could start off by stating the obvious: the 1st Colt course, the membership, the lunch…but that is not what the golf course is all about. This course is the epitome of match play golf. You won’t find a course better suited for the format. That’s why the members play foursomes only, 36 holes a day. Understand that each hole is fantastic, but Rye is not just a pretty course. Rye IS links golf in all of its intricacies (the weather, the wind, the putting from 50meters out etc.). I have no idea why it is ranked where it is, as in my mind, if I could play one match play round in England it would be at Rye. My answer would be different, though for medal play. Also, if you are making a day of Rye, you should start the day with 9 holes on the Jubilee, which is well worth it, certainly have lunch, and then play the 18 holes…I was forgetting try the showers! And just for the fun of it, have a drink in the armchair which once belonged to Charles Darwin.
Any of the five par threes at Rye can ruin your score. The 5th is a wonderful par three. You hit over a valley to a green on top of a flattened dune. Anything short or left will run back down a steep slope. The 6th, index 1, is a very difficult par four of 468 yards. The drive is blind over a marker post on top of a high ridge. Four bunkers are at the narrow entrance to the green.
The 12th tee is right beside wetlands with the Rye docks on your right. Once you have driven over the rough, the hole is fairly straight forward. Thirteen is anything but straight forward. This is a long par four with a ridge of high dunes blocking any view of the green. When playing your second shot, you need to be aware that the green is more to the left than you may have imagined.
Fifteen is a demanding par four with plenty of rough and bumps and hollows. The 16th entails a blind shot over a ridge. Seventeen is the longest par three at 222 yards but it is the least attractive. The hole is flat with the only bunkers at the left of the green. The 18th is a great finishing hole, tougher than its index of 8. The clubhouse clock is your line for the drive. Severe trouble awaits any ball off line, especially down the right.
This review is an edited extract from Another Journey through the Links, which has been reproduced with David Worley’s kind permission. The author has exclusively rated for us every English course featured in his book. Another Journey through the Links is available for Australian buyers via www.golfbooks.com.au and through Amazon for buyers from other countries.